Which One Do You Believe?
Post-Millenialism: Jesus comes back after the millenium, goal is to Christianize the earth before Jesus comes, He will come after a period of peace and spirituality, and this theory embraces replacement theology - the church replaces Israel in God's plan
A-Millenialism: focuses on the symbols and also the spiritual triumph of the church, makes majority of the Word symbolic, with no clear standard of agreement on the interpretation, wide belief that there is no millenial reign - this is symbolic of Jesus's reign in our hearts. (Preterism: all prophecy was fullfilled in the past - 70AD Rome's conquering of Israel, etc)
Pre-Millenialism: Jesus comes back before the millenial reign begins, views end times prophecy as literal.
3 Approaches/Views of Pre-Millenialism
1. Dispensational: Belief in rapture before tribulation - seems to be the most popular
2. Historic: Post trib rapture, no victorious bride or vision for victorious King/church
3. Apostolic: Post trib rapture with a victorious bride who may die physically, but satan is still defeated spiritually
A-Millenialism: focuses on the symbols and also the spiritual triumph of the church, makes majority of the Word symbolic, with no clear standard of agreement on the interpretation, wide belief that there is no millenial reign - this is symbolic of Jesus's reign in our hearts. (Preterism: all prophecy was fullfilled in the past - 70AD Rome's conquering of Israel, etc)
Pre-Millenialism: Jesus comes back before the millenial reign begins, views end times prophecy as literal.
3 Approaches/Views of Pre-Millenialism
1. Dispensational: Belief in rapture before tribulation - seems to be the most popular
2. Historic: Post trib rapture, no victorious bride or vision for victorious King/church
3. Apostolic: Post trib rapture with a victorious bride who may die physically, but satan is still defeated spiritually
posted by KariBryant @ 8:29 PM
6 Comments:
At 11:28 PM,
Anonymous said…
Which ever one it is, Kari, it won't be soon enough... But those are my own purely selfish desires...
At 10:28 AM,
Amy said…
I grew up a dispensational pre-millennialist, but I think it's misleading to believe that God is going to spare the church from the tribulation. If it doesn't turn out that way, I think there will be a lot of disillusioned believers wondering where they went wrong. It could happen, the church could be raptured pre-trib, but I'm leaning more towards the apostolic view.
At 9:07 AM,
Anonymous said…
Ummm... I don't know, I just don't know. There I said it and I am not ashamed either.
Everything I read in the disciples understanding of things is that they seemed to live in the expectation of the Lord's imminent return. Perhaps some of that had to do with the knowledge of our emminent return to Him, that life as we know it is not guaranteed even for today.
I do know that there is the resurrection and that if we go to the grave, we do not stay there. That is all the hope I need to persevere.
Why don't you just bury me alive, get me out of the way until your anger cools?
But don't leave me there! Set a date when you'll see me again. If we humans die, will we live again? That's my question.
All through these difficult days I keep hoping, waiting for the final change--for resurrection! Homesick with longing for the creature you made, you'll call--and I'll answer
Job 14:13-15 (The Message)
At 4:28 AM,
Anonymous said…
Hi, Kari! Well, it is obvious that we are truly living in that day, as it is the same today as it was in the days of Noah! Most people do not want to look at what the Lord is saying to us through the times in which we are living. As for living out of the reality of Jesus' love, it is ONLY out of that reality that one can even look at these types of issues, for there is a trembling even in giving consideration to the possibility that Jesus is more than our Bridegroom--He is our King and our Judge also. It is obvious that you are a true Forerunner, and as such, I encourage you to continue to stand in the truths the Bridegroom/King/Judge has revealed to you, and to not be swayed, even as Noah, who built that ark for 120 years with people refusing to even give consideration to what he was saying to them as He preached and prophesied about the coming destruction--not in an effort to scare people, but in an effort to draw them into salvation. Keep your chin up when resisted in what the Lord is showing you! There will be many more who will call you an extremist than those who will embrace and believe the warning the Lord give through you.
At 7:35 AM,
Anonymous said…
not sure if you're still into this topic, but i am "pre-wrath."
i find comparing Matt. 24 with Rev. 6-7 provide an interesting picture of regular chaos and suffering which culminates with the return of christ. then in Rev. after the "multitude that no one could number...those that have come out of the great tribulation" that's when it starts hailing fire and blood on "the wicked". that's where i disagree with the pre-tribbers. i don't see the "seals" as being god's wrath. that's just things that have to happen first. the stuff that comes later, the darkness, the sores, the locusts, yeah, that stuff is god's wrath. And that is after what i believe scripture points to as a "rapture".
At 3:31 PM,
KariBryant said…
Answer to MM - One of the things most often misunderstood is God's justice, the goodness in God's justice. Most perceive that He is just an angry God, wanting to get rid of those who oppose Him. But if we believe this, we do not completely understand the character of our Father, that He is ALL good, that He cannot lie, and that it was His plan for humans to be betrothed to Jesus as a pure and spotless bride, one who voluntarily is abandoned to Jesus. Most do not see the "judgements" spoken of in so many places in the Bible as God's mercy - using the least severe means to draw the most to His heart. He would rather that we come to Him for eternity through a small amt of suffering on earth for a short time, than to live in eternity in Sheol...when our hearts grasp this, we will be beter able to understand the events that will lead up to His return....
Also, we will live again in a body exactly like Christ's resurrected body (I assume without the nailmarks). Paul talks about this as one of the "mysteries" of the gospel that he was privy to. This is what I believe, anyhow. I guess you can interpret any of this in any way that you would like to, but the most important thing would be to just ask the Holy Spirit, Jesus Himself to give you the answers.
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